各位看多还是看空中国?评论一下

Discussion in 'Quantum and Mind' started by cnbiz850, Oct 1, 2010.

  1. 你爱怎么想就怎么想。呵呵。咱有多少水平,咱还是清楚的。
    还是那句话,欢迎看空。谢谢
     
  2. 不敢不敢,当着大神面哪敢看空,怕像Scott那样被指着鼻子骂:
    :D
     
  3. 又一个逻辑思绪混乱的。
    首先,俺叙述了父辈的历史与生活体验,为什么俺要叙述?因为有人觉得农民傻,俺的切身例子想说的是农民不傻。俺生活的农村里都是象俺们父辈这样的。
    其次,有人拿了一堆名词,几个人物,几段小史来开始指责咱父辈那是没文化,见识短。俺断然指出,其实没文化没历史与现实判断力的是他而已。
    如此而已。
     
  4. 嗯嗯,算我“逻辑思绪”混乱吧,大神原谅则个:cool:
    对了,不要“咱啊咱”的,您的父辈是您的父辈,俺的是俺自己的(好绕口啊...):D
     
  5. 说你逻辑混乱看来你是不服气了。
    你看看是谁首先觉得有文化,在谁面前充大神的。
     
  6. 1,俺爸妈=俺父辈,
    2,俺家农村里的邻居感觉=和俺父辈一样的;
    3,俺的用词=咱们父辈,
    请教,哪里有错?谢谢
    这就绕晕了吗:eek:
     
  7. 多谢各位先生对本贴讨论的积极参与,相信每一位都怀有远大的真知灼见,能开诚布公地在此阐述自己的观点,我们需要的是明确表达自己思想,也需要认真聆听他人的思想,希望我们都能做到对事不对人,保持这一美德,也保持海洋知名的文明度。

    再次感谢各位先生。
     
  8. 支持楼主!
     
  9. 多谢版主。
     
  10. 彼此彼此,93年割过工人了,城镇居民现在割的也差不多了,看看接下来轮到谁。

    欢迎看多,嘿嘿
     
  11. 《股票作手回忆录》 语录:

    “你要知道这是多头市场。”
     
  12. 标题如果改成《各位认为什么时候可以做空中国》更给力。
     
  13. 估计快了
     
  14. 加点调料:

    引自:Why China’s Economic Growth is More Bark Than Bite

    Three Factors That Could Slow Chinese Economic Growth

    * Industrial Growth

    Already into its 13th year, China’s investment-led industrial growth is now very long in the tooth. Research by Pivot Capital Management shows that the longest previous period of investment-led economic growth was nine years (in Thailand and Singapore). But China’s real fixed investment has increased at a faster rate than GDP in nine of the past 10 years.

    Investment is at 70% of GDP and the return on every marginal dollar invested in China is decreasing. In 2000, it took $1.50 of credit to generate $1 of GDP. But by 2008, it took $7 of new credit to generate a $1 increase in GDP.

    China’s bank lending explosion has led to credit-to-GDP rising to 140% – levels equal to America in 2008 and Japan in 1991 just before their market meltdowns.

    * Overheating Economy

    That heavy investment has led to substantial overcapacity in China’s manufacturing, real estate and infrastructure, as well as deteriorating credit quality and weakening export markets.

    Examples of China’s overcapacity include its steel industry, which is equal to that of America, Japan, Russia and the 27 European Union countries put together. And its aluminum capacity is eight times larger than America on a per capita basis.

    * Politics

    China’s brittle political system makes the chances of adjusting to consumer-led economic growth remote at best.

    The end result? These factors will lead to a growth rate far below what the markets expect. In turn, that will lead to a China crisis, which will only accelerate as the global macro picture shines the spotlight on China’s shrinking export markets and industrial overcapacity.
     
  15. 新调料:

    Tactic for Circumventing China's Efforts to Cool Housing Market Shows Bubble May be Peaking by Patrick Chovanec

    I’ve frequently commented that the Chinese government’s administrative measures, earlier this year, to “cool” its overheated property market had done nothing to change the fundamental dynamics driving so many Chinese to invest in real estate, and in particular, unproductive real estate. The government, I said, could construct barriers (such as prohibiting second home purchases), but water would find a way to flow downhill. I admit I had no idea, though, to just what lengths Chinese homebuyers would go.

    The other day, I was talking with a part-time maid we had hired to help us settle in to our new apartment after relocating within Beijing. She had told us, when we hired her, that she was divorced. Now that she had gotten to know us, however, she informed me — matter of factly — that while she was, in fact, officially divorced, she still lived happily with her husband and daughter as a family. Seeing the quizzical look on my face, she reassured me that the only reason they had gotten a divorce — a mere legal technicality — was so they could circumvent the one-home-per-family restriction and qualify to buy a second home in Beijing.

    At first I figured her case must be an outlier, an exception. It turns out the practice is far more common than I imagined. I found an article in the South China Morning Post, published earlier this month, that describes what’s going on:

    Welcome to the latest mainland trend: getting divorced, or appearing to, in order to save money on buying a second or third home. With real estate prices still soaring and regulations enacted in April to increase the down payment needed on second and third homes while raising mortgage rates, couples have been taking advantage of one of the loopholes in the system.

    Some couples merely buy fake divorce papers, without actually going through with it. But actual, legal divorces in China are up nearly 10% this year, and nobody can say just how many are motivated by real estate fever. But the motivations of those who are willing to at least contemplate such a drastic move are extremely telling:

    An informal survey conducted by the Shanghai Financial News in May suggested that as many as 40 per cent of respondents would consider a tactical divorce if the savings were high enough. One reason is that although the regulations were put in place to curb property speculation, there is a sceptical view of the strategy’s effect. “I think the reason couples choose to divorce in order to buy property is that they don’t expect housing prices to go down in the short term. They don’t believe the government measures will have an effect on housing prices,” [Professor] Cao said.

    Apparently it didn’t take long for “water” to find its way downhill, either: according to another article from China’s state-run Xinhua news agency, back in May, Chinese couples started exploiting this legal loophole almost immediately after the government’s “cooling measures” came into force.

    “In the two weeks after the new rules were introduced, I received 16 clients hoping to get a favorable loan by getting a divorce,” said Li Yi, a lawyer with Tenghui Law Office in Chongqing Municipality.

    One such client describes how it works:

    “After we get divorced, my wife will claim our house, so that I can apply for a mortgage as a first-home buyer since I don’t have a house under my name. And we will remarry after that,” Li said, adding that he got the idea from a real estate agency.

    Three observations I would make about this rather astonishing trend:

    First, it makes my point about the ineffectiveness of administrative controls that fly in the face of market forces – people are just way too clever, they will find a way to do what they want to do.

    Second, it’s one of those “shoeshine boys dispensing stock tips” anecdotes that surface around the peak of a bubble, when people will do anything — virtually anything — to pile into what they see as a “sure thing.” Usually a bad sign.

    Third, in my view, it sheds some helpful light on how average Chinese people tend to see the law — not as a set of rules governing fairness and defining legitimate rights and obligations, but as an arbitrary obstacle imposed from above which resourceful people will find a way to “beat” (and I make this observation with a great deal of affection for my Chinese in-laws, many of whom have precisely this outlook). It’s an outlook that helps explain a lot that goes on in China today, from widespread video piracy to product safety scandals to WTO compliance frustrations.