成立“中国系统交易协会”如何?

Discussion in 'Fund Operating and Career' started by neo_cn, Dec 17, 2007.

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您是否支持创办“中国系统交易协会”?

Poll closed Jan 1, 2008.
  1. 早就期待这一天了,我支持

    12.5%
  2. 有长远意义,我支持

    87.5%
  3. 网上的交流就足够了,我觉得没什么必要

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. 我想看看别人的看法再说

    0 vote(s)
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  1. 各位海洋论坛的朋友
    在黄忠老大无私奉献精神的感召下,我们在海洋论坛相遇、相识、相互扶持、互通有无,如今以系统交易为特色的海洋论坛已经成为了中国投资者,尤其是中国系统交易者的家园。
    2007年首次中国系统交易年会在深圳清华大学研究院成功举办,平日只见其字、不见其人的朋友们从全国各地走到一起交流、畅饮。
    随后多次小规模的会面在深圳、广州和北京进行。
    我们都感觉到网上的交流跨越时空,网下的交流使我们的距离更近。
    系统交易近两年在中国得到了迅速的发展,而且我想大家都和我一样会认可这个观点:系统交易是一场投资革命,他在投资领域的作用将越来越明显。
    我觉得除了网上的交流以外,我们是不是可以成立“中国系统交易协会”,更好地组织中国的系统交易人才,为他们有更明确的“找到组织啦”的感觉,使其更有效的沟通,并且作为一个团体和社会进行交互。
    定时举办年会,定期交流,资源共享,创办自己的期刊和出版物,翻译海外优秀著作,甚至联合进行攻关。。。。

    我问过黄忠老大,他说还没有什么想法,让我发个帖子看看大家的意见。

    希望各位踊跃参与,表达自己的看法。

    黄忠老大作为海洋论坛的创办人,多年来为大家无私奉献,没有他我们就不会在这里相识,也不会因为在这里得到的信息和资源得到加速的进步,所以我提议如果创办“中国系统交易协会”,我们还是请黄忠老大任协会会长。

    请各位系统交易爱好者和从业者就“是否赞成以海洋论坛为核心创办中国系统交易协会的提议”进行投票。
     
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  2. 不投票的请留言告知原因,谢谢
     
  3. 我没投票,因为不知道投哪个票,
    从感情上支持这个设想!!
     
  4. 谢谢,是不是我的选项说的不明确??
     
  5. 你的意思倒是明确的,但我之所以没法填是因为我感觉缺少“可行性”这个前提条件。
    假如我用家里的空间办这样一个协会,参加的人都住上海,开销的仅仅是茶叶,那这些最起码的前提就提供了可行性,但现实的情况,大家住得天南地北,外地的只能凑巧顺便来来,我家即便有1000平方也没用,外地朋友不来啊。
    如果我的期货交易大获成功,我肯定会开个办公室,随便朋友从哪里来,一切开销我包了,顿顿吃西餐,另配导游MM,但我还是招集不满,来了谈什么成为大问题了。
    :):)
    事情是方方面面的,兴趣、水平、志向、心胸等等等等是最大阻力,这样的协会办个壳是容易的,有血有肉就难了。
    这样的事情,1是要有物理外壳,2要有经费储备,3要有章程,一定要搞得正而8劲的才行,没有这些散起来和搞起来一样的容易。
     
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  6. hahaha,老A大哥豪爽,还给配导游MM;) ;) ;)
    老A大哥所言极是,凡事仅仅靠热情推动是绝对不够的,而利益推动往往是当今社会我们能看到的绝大多数成就的主推动力。
    现在各行各业都有协会 律师协会 医师协会 企业家协会 理财师协会 他们能办成,我们应该也能办成。
    办这样一个有血有肉的协会,的确需要有几个人能够发现协会对社会,协会对个人,协会对协会会员,协会对政府、协会对其他利益团体之间的经济利益、情感利益等利益关系,并且能够如太极高手一般把利益和利益对接,创造价值。
    办协会需要人财物,这是一个客观存在的困难,我初步想到可以借助高校的资源。
    慢慢来,先有组织,再有内容,然后发展实体。
     
  7. 老A的意思是搞个团队做个基金?
     
  8. 我倒是没想到基金和协会的依托关系。
    如果天上送我一个基金,那我就可以顺利地办一个协会。
    一件合法的外衣、一个基金实体、一个想输都难的自动化系统---加上一个协会,协会中人分2部分,一部分是志愿军,另外一部分是雇佣军。
    接下来的事情不用多想就知道了,我们可以真正的去做大好事了。:):)
     
  9. 不管基金、协会、Club、Seminar、Salon、FB等等,这事应该以上海金融中心为主要基地。建议请A兄负责跟上海的兄弟们打圈电话先聊一聊,看看大伙有什么想法。系统交易区核心成员上海的现有6位:peter1815、amkr1015、joesan、idlator、blackhorse、高德(以加入论坛时间排序)。
     
  10. 是不是再等等?
    我已经在计划弄间大点的办公室,如果不泡汤的话,那空间就OK了,现在的任务是要先定个大概的性质和宗旨,出师有名了,大家可以报名和审批。
     
  11. 好啊好啊

    真是太好了
     
  12. 自己顶一下
     
  13. 支持! 功在当代,利在千秋,象是计划生育,呵呵。
     
  14. 支持
     
  15. “海洋系统交易朋友圈”(Ocean Systematic Trading Friends Circle,OSTFC)如何?
     
  16. 老贴:
    http://74.54.18.242/~hylt/vb/showpost.php?p=41818&postcount=12
    互联网“多对多”交流的形式有很多种,并在不断地发展。早期是基于Telnet协议的BBS(Bulletin Board System,电子公告版),比如著名的水木清华,现在回头看它非常原始,但当时它曾火爆得不得了,黑色的窗口,眼花缭乱的文字,让无数青年或不青年的网友彻夜沉迷,现在关于互联网的很多思想可能都能在那里找到起源。后来,基于HTTP协议的Web Forum(论坛)开始兴起,早期的Forum叫做Discussion Board,仍然沿用Board的叫法和思维。后来,随着Forum程序的改进,贴子已不再是简单几句话的黑板报,贴图出现了,格式标签也有了,贴子可以是图文并茂的长篇文章,因此大家不再叫它是Board,而是Forum。再后来,不知是谁带头,改其名字为Community(社区),社区就不仅是大家发完贴子痛快了事,而是相互关系要产生一点社区的感觉,还搞点网下聚会、FB,还来点PK,成员关系逐渐社会化,有干部有百姓地。另外,还出现了Group(部落),它是把论坛贴子、共享文件等结合在一起,如Yahoo、国内的焦点(focus.cn)的早期,它们至今仍然存在,但生存空间很有限。还有博客的评论(Comments)也成为一种变相的论坛。Community叫法的日子并不长,又来了新叫法:SNS(Social Network Service,社会网络服务)。我认为SNS将是场革命。它伴和着Web 2.0而产生,重在需求,不再受制于技术。目前SNS的首期产品是朋友圈(Friends Circle),发展迅猛,但也遇到一些问题,如欺诈横行无法控制,我认为它之所以遇到这些问题,是因为抛弃了不该抛弃的Forum的基本功能,那就是贴子。路遥知马力,日久见人心。发一个骗人贴子(或偷袭转贴一个高水平贴子)不难,难的是发一千个骗人贴子,并且是用几年时间。因此,我认为,基于Forum的SNS是目前想到的最好结果。当然,管理方面也要继续跟上,比如FB、当回驴友、网下的Forum、讲座,小团队、小分队的建设等等。Community、Friends Circle都有明显的弱点。其实我觉得如何把传统的Club、Association移植到网上,也许更有价值。
     
  17. 支持
    不过不知道怎么投票,没看到投票按钮啊,结束了?
     
  18. http://www.bartleby.com/61/88/C0518800.html
    community
    1a. A group of people living in the same locality and under the same government. b. The district or locality in which such a group lives. 2a. A group of people having common interests: the scientific community; the international business community. b. A group viewed as forming a distinct segment of society: the gay community; the community of color. 3a. Similarity or identity: a community of interests. b. Sharing, participation, and fellowship. 4. Society as a whole; the public. 5. Ecology a. A group of plants and animals living and interacting with one another in a specific region under relatively similar environmental conditions. b. The region occupied by a group of interacting organisms.

    http://www.bartleby.com/61/44/F0274400.html
    forum
    1a. The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business. b. A public meeting place for open discussion. c. A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper or a radio or television program. 2. A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation. 3. A court of law; a tribunal.

    http://www.bartleby.com/61/26/C0362600.html
    circle
    1. A plane curve everywhere equidistant from a given fixed point, the center. 2. A planar region bounded by a circle. 3. Something, such as a ring, shaped like such a plane curve. 4. A circular course, circuit, or orbit: a satellite's circle around the earth. 5. A traffic circle. 6. A curved section or tier of seats in a theater. 7. A series or process that finishes at its starting point or continuously repeats itself; a cycle. 8. A group of people sharing an interest, activity, or achievement: well-known in artistic circles. 9. A territorial or administrative division, especially of a province, in some European countries. 10. A sphere of influence or interest; domain. 11. Logic A vicious circle.
     
  19. bulletin board

    1. A board on which notices are posted. 2. Computer Science A system that enables users to send or read electronic messages, files, and other data that are of general interest and addressed to no particular person.

    forum

    1a. The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business. b. A public meeting place for open discussion. c. A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper or a radio or television program. 2. A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation. 3. A court of law; a tribunal.

    community

    1a. A group of people living in the same locality and under the same government. b. The district or locality in which such a group lives. 2a. A group of people having common interests: the scientific community; the international business community. b. A group viewed as forming a distinct segment of society: the gay community; the community of color. 3a. Similarity or identity: a community of interests. b. Sharing, participation, and fellowship. 4. Society as a whole; the public. 5. Ecology a. A group of plants and animals living and interacting with one another in a specific region under relatively similar environmental conditions. b. The region occupied by a group of interacting organisms.

    club

    1. A stout heavy stick, usually thicker at one end, suitable for use as a weapon; a cudgel. 2. Sports An implement used in some games to drive a ball, especially a stick with a protruding head used in golf. 3. Games a. A black figure shaped like a trefoil or clover leaf on certain playing cards. b. A playing card with this figure. c. clubs (used with a sing. or pl. verb) The suit of cards represented by this figure. 4. A group of people organized for a common purpose, especially a group that meets regularly: a garden club. 5. The building, room, or other facility used for the meetings of an organized group. 6. Sports An athletic team or organization. 7. A nightclub.

    group

    1. An assemblage of persons or objects gathered or located together; an aggregation: a group of dinner guests; a group of buildings near the road. 2. Two or more figures that make up a unit or design, as in sculpture. 3. A number of individuals or things considered together because of similarities: a small group of supporters across the country. 4. Linguistics A category of related languages that is less inclusive than a family. 5a. A military unit consisting of two or more battalions and a headquarters. b. A unit of two or more squadrons in the U.S. Air Force, smaller than a wing. 6. A class or collection of related objects or entities, as: a. Two or more atoms behaving or regarded as behaving as a single chemical unit. b. A column in the periodic table of the elements. c. A stratigraphic unit, especially a unit consisting of two or more formations deposited during a single geologic era. 7. Mathematics A group with a binary associative operation such that the operation admits an identity element and each element of the set has an inverse element for the operation.

    circle

    1. A plane curve everywhere equidistant from a given fixed point, the center. 2. A planar region bounded by a circle. 3. Something, such as a ring, shaped like such a plane curve. 4. A circular course, circuit, or orbit: a satellite's circle around the earth. 5. A traffic circle. 6. A curved section or tier of seats in a theater. 7. A series or process that finishes at its starting point or continuously repeats itself; a cycle. 8. A group of people sharing an interest, activity, or achievement: well-known in artistic circles. 9. A territorial or administrative division, especially of a province, in some European countries. 10. A sphere of influence or interest; domain. 11. Logic A vicious circle.

    tribe

    1. A unit of sociopolitical organization consisting of a number of families, clans, or other groups who share a common ancestry and culture and among whom leadership is typically neither formalized nor permanent. 2. A political, ethnic, or ancestral division of ancient states and cultures, especially: a. Any of the three divisions of the ancient Romans, namely, the Latin, Sabine, and Etruscan. b. Any of the 12 divisions of ancient Israel. c. A phyle of ancient Greece. 3. A group of people sharing an occupation, interest, or habit: a tribe of graduate students. 4. Informal A large family. 5. Biology A taxonomic category placed between a subfamily and a genus or between a suborder and a family and usually containing several genera.