neo_cn将出资设立系统交易研究院,征求各位意见

Discussion in 'Fund Operating and Career' started by neo_cn, Jul 22, 2008.

  1. 没有也不要紧,我慢慢赚,3年就不少了
     
  2. 你给我一个账号,里面5000就可以,不好的话,你解雇我,好的话,我们再谈合作。本人的系统2月基本翻番,哈哈,你敢么?
     
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    这样对你有意义吗?
    你的意思是我会利用这2-3万来谋求自己的利益
    比如开盘打冷门股?
    有这可能性
    你提出一个方案来
    安全且可以检验我的水平
    我接受
     
  4. 你来海洋论坛是找不到的.没人和你合作,而且你的方法才3个月,没经过一轮牛熊.你你还是先回测一下看看效果吧.
     
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    对,这三个月事牛市 你的理解很专业
    我的东西已经回测过
    我知道
    大多数人认为我是吹牛皮
    因为这样的水平是不需要资金的
    确实如此
     
  6. 我来这里的本意是想看程序炒股到什么程度
    看到这个贴,就想炫耀一下自己
    除此还想提高一下发财的速度
    网上信任度很低我知道
     
  7. 此贴的本意是想组织团体找到方法
    这是风险投资
    我已经找到了,
    不要时间而且风险小
    为什么舍近求远呢?
     
  8. Neo,

    Well, I have just read this post and feel that this is a very interesting idea to set up a trading institue in China. The financial market and knowledge is so profound in the world and hope that you can successfully set up this institute in China.

    Perhaps, you have have already thought of the following, but there are a lot of issues and I can easily think of: -

    1) Objective of the project - earning money or knowledge; or both; or others....
    2) Legality issue - it is legal to set up the institue in China with the objective set up in (1)??....
    3) If this is a profit making institue, how to share profit?
    4) How to protect property right of the researches conducts by each researcher?
    5) You have mentioned in one of the post that there is a need of money to obtain a license in HK? What is the purpose of having it done?
    6) If this institue would conduct trading, what will be the trading platform? Automated trading?.... Trading what market? Who would be in charge of the trading - researcher with proved workable system? Or....
    7) Will this institue set up an office in HK?

    Sa
     
  9. 请问spaceant有何自己的想法?
     
  10. neo老师有志气,愿望是好得不能再好了,不过,这个事情要办起来基本没有什么希望,最起码,第一件要做的事情就是要先推举一个绝对权威的人,没有这个是不可能按计划做事情的,但就这个“推举”就是第一难点了,你想,我们这个行业,哈,很少有不自以为非常能干和聪明的人,他听你的?现实点的办法是去找聪明的失败者,这个事情要办好要先从这步开始,办公室和电脑什么的都无所谓。
    你看,我是不是也很自以为是啊,呵呵。
     
  11. neo老师找我事情就成功了一步
     
  12. 几乎是任何事情,都会有人相信赞成支持同时会有人怀疑和观望。而很多事情,不需要多数人相信和支持,甚至不需要他们知道。

    办研究院这件事,国外有,台湾有,香港也有,为什么中国就不能有。

    需要有人办这件事,吃这个螃蟹,hylt老大办了海洋论坛,这其实就是虚拟的研究院,各位谁没有从中受益过呢,我们干这行的经常需要抱团取暖。

    时光倒流10年,朋友们听说hylt老大要办一个虚拟研究院,会是什么样的意见和建议呢?不会有任何建议和意见,因为那时候没有海洋论坛,我们也不可能相识。
     
  13. 你多大了?
     
  14. 40 多
     
  15. 你想看我的水平
    可以到陶股吧去找这个笔名
     
  16. 陶股吧也有一伙喜爱编程的家伙?
     
  17. 很少
    你这里也很少
     
  18. If you ask me the first response to the implementation of the institue. It is a very difficult to implement it!!

    I think Neo should conform the "mission" set by the one who contribute the money, that should be in-line with Neo's objective too.

    Well, I guess that the one who contribute the money would like to share the profit out of the institue. That is logical.

    I am not should how Neo would like the hire the "researcher" (or "trader") of this institue. This is very critical!

    If one has a proven, workable system. He may ask himself why he want to join the institue. He can make his money alone without have any burden, rules or regulations set by others. I can think of one reason - he has no initial capital to trade. That's okay.

    But how can Neo or his team prove the system is workable - a very critical step. If I were Neo, I would ask whether the applicant has a proven track record of system, i.e. would the system make real consistent money in real trading. This should be in a reasonable length of period.

    Also, this can be based on backtesting result. A successful trader would said - a good backtesting result, even it is not a hindsight or manipulated one, doesn't mean one can really earn money from it. Whether the one will follow the system strictly with discipline. One big bad trade can ruin the whole result. I know Neo knows that!

    A Hindsight code can yield a good looking performance, I can do it easily. This is too good to be true performance result. Neo must screen them out.....

    (need to go out now, as my son asks me to go out, will post again)...

    P/s It is very difficult, but it can still be done successfully!

    Sa
     
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  20. 一向支持neo老师的事业,也是最早报名参加的。我说说我个人的体会:

    研究交易到最后,就是不要研究。我的交易系统,从10个,到5个,到3个,到2个。
    曾经编写的指标无数,自己用的从100个,到50,到10个,到5个,到2个。

    我很害怕,研究院成立了,最后有一天突然发布一个成果:我们的成果就是没有成果。

    但是研究院的目的或许不只是赚钱,真的,这里寻找朋友,不要孤独。我自信外汇能不断的赚钱或许不多,可是我还是喜欢到处认识朋友,基本不是说去寻找更好的系统,而是去寻找交易外的快乐。

    当然,没有研究,是不可能有好的交易系统的,这也是研究院的初衷。但是,很多东西没有必要行政化,在大趋势向好的情况下,追随者都有利可图,无非是多少的问题而已。而试图定义趋势者,往往一无所得。

    人类一思考,上帝就发笑。我越来少思考事情了,交易如果需要长年的殚精竭虑,我宁愿如同20年前一样,在湖北的农村当我的农民。

    希望研究院如同neo老师的初衷一样,自由开放乐观和谐,无心插柳柳成荫。

    突然发现,海洋论坛就是如此了,老大也没想到能有今天的规模。

    让我们在和谐的领导下,自由的研究,自由的创造,自由的交易,这才是交易员们的追求。